Authors Perception and Clarity of Study.
- Ron Thompson
This story started in 1980 for me. I was around 17 and was attending a bible study at a friend's home. I have been studying about this Christian fish for a long time. In the 1980 study isn't so easy. Books had to be gotten from libraries or ordered. Study was slow and a lot of people gave up I think because it is very hard to do. This subject was much easier to find through books. Even now, much of what was, is missing.
THIS POST CONTAINS ADULT SUBJECT MATTER.
There is rude language that will be offensive to most.
I am offended every time I see this pagan symbol, but it matters not as long as you the Christian are not offended. There is only me and maybe 2 others who know enough about this that would be offended seeing this. So, it really doesn't matter. Democracy is where the majority aways wins out over the few.
It is what it is. I am just reporting the truth and what I witness, that is all.
The Fish Symbol "A" is from Mesopotamia and is Inanna's Virginia. Symbol "A" is an amazing symbol for a female fertility god don't you think? I bet the Mesopotamians were putting out all kinds of kids under that symbol. I am not joking the Mesopotamians had more children with the Vaginal symbol watching over them. I read it was common to have this in the bedroom for conception. So, I am not stretching the truth at all about this symbol. It was said that using the symbol in female masturbation would improve fertility chances. The image as stated is the original symbol. Masturbation was done with these strange symbols of Inanna's' Virginia. Inanna is more bird than human, so ... this originally was her vaginal area and legs apart if the fertility symbol is to be understood. You can see how this symbol was modified by the Mesopotamians for masturbation. It made sense and it looked more like a womans Virgina. Fish are not cemeterial, but Virginias are, remember that from anatomy. You can see this my dear traveler, can't you? These symbols are from the same god. It is what it is. Also, the church has been removing everything pertaining to this so much of the information is gone. Maybe 10 more years and the believer will have this erased, so they look non-pagan. Non pagan, the Greeks are pagan people! They want this to shift to the Greeks it looks cleaner since this is where Jesus comes from. That is clearly the church.
Wow, yes female masturbation. Ouch ... or maybe not. I don't know. Not a lady, maybe a small one did the trick? I always wondered if the Mesopotamians used the long leg parts to attach things to for sexual intercourse. I could never find it, but Inanna had some kink stuff happening. Not condemning just stating facts. That is mild compared to actual rituals Inanna had those believers doing. The "believer" pagan or otherwise no matter where they are, are simply stupid. The church tells you it is a harmless symbol it isn't a Virginia. OKAY! But females masturbated with this symbol in rituals? Like masturbation with a Christian Fish. OKAY! It is maddening the church is just a bunch of pagan liars run by Freemasons and Jews. That is why there is no real truth here. Just believers and they had faith they would get pregnant, by masturbating with this Symbol. The main question is why does Christianity have any symbology at all? Symbology is pagan all of it. It all comes from your lord of darkness you named Satan the Devil. Yes, symbology is from Satan. Symbology all of it is pagan. Faith and belief, it means everything, right? Faith should tell you symbols and images to have and to hold, are totally Christian. Right, sure it is. Sure, I knew Catholic girls who told me they masturbated with the cross another pagan symbol. But they too never got pregnant. Imagine that. I guess they didn't have enough faith. Nevertheless, "A" it is the Christian fish and the vaginal area of a women.
The Fish Symbol "B" is actually a fish and if you picked "B" you are a seer. This is how a fish tail ends (Anatomy isn't that stage how that works?) so the "fin" can be attached. If the curve is like it is in symbol "A" we cannot attach the "fin." Therefore symbol "A" is the curvature of the female buttock. To be exact Inanna's. Imagine a woman on her back with her legs up. That is exactly Inanna's symbol also known as the Christian fish. However, my example is actually more like a Virgina with a tail.
It's okay if the Christian is ignorant. What can you do? I tried for 45 years made no difference at all. Spoke to thousands truly and tried to help hundreds. This topic about Inanna is so offensive to each of them (wow). It pisses the Christian off because once again the Christian doesn't know what they are doing. No amount of evidence will change anything. It is about faith over clarity, each and every time. The only thing the Christian Fish is good for, is a position for sex. It is good, look at this example you may want to try: "Honey let's start 69, Okay now good, missionary, good, good now! Christian fish!" That is all it is good for in my relationship. Thanks Inanna.
Here is the Christain response to finding out about their Christian fish is just a gods Virginia. A Virginia! No, it isn't. (They want everything shifted towards the Greeks if I am not mistaken.) Providing this information to the Christian. The ichthys or ichthus (/ˈɪkθəs/), from the Greek ikhthū́s (ἰχθύς, 1st cent. AD Koine Greek pronunciation: [ikʰˈtʰys], "fish") is (in its modern rendition) a symbol consisting of two intersecting arcs, the ends of the right side extending beyond the meeting point so as to resemble the profile of a fish. It has been speculated that the symbol was adopted by << THIS LINK PROVIDED BY THE CHURCH STATES. 325 is when Christians are first known of. 325 is the 3rd Centry AD and has nothing to do with what they are claiming, their own evidence refutes them. This is stupidity. Church run stupidity.>> early Christians as a secret symbol; a shibboleth to determine if another was indeed Christian. It is now known colloquially as the "Jesus fish".
THERE ARE NO CHRISTIANS IN THE FIRST CENTRY! OMG! The church is saying these are Christian religions. Jewish Christianity, Pauline Christianity and Gnostic Christianity. And are stating these are early Christians. This is just Jewish Orthodox Religions. This is not Christian as much as it is Jewish. How can the Jew be Christain? The insanity and ignorance are clearly from mentally challenged people. All of this is madness, and we are just considering the truth about a symbol and look what you have to go through. This is why no one studies. The process of this type of study will drive you mad.
This is a lie; this is not Greek. As a Greek by putting this on your door did not mean you were Christian. It would have meant if the church was completed "Roman Catholic" as that was your NON-Christian or Jewish or something else, but not Christian. Roman Catholic, remember? Before the pope came out and said they were all Christians in the late 60s'. Doesn't anyone remember this? Roman Catholic are not Christians never were. There are still Catholics that have stayed to their Roman heritage. These Roman Catholics will totally kill you for calling them Christians. What is wrong with your church? Because it is what is wrong with you. Not until around the 3rd century do we see anyone relating themselves to what we understand is Christianity. In my opinion, not until the Roman Catholic split off into Protestantism do, we, really see a start to Christianity but it failed. It should have been the first Christian Church but had no clarity to who Yeshua was. And because Roman Catholics hate Christians, they have been killing Protestants for centuries. And the same is kill back all over religion. Romans' vs the Christians is all it is. Of course, the Romans and the Christians are both Orthodoxy to Judaism and neither knows this. My head is hurting again.
THERE ARE NO CHRISTIANS IN THE FIRST CENTRY! I really have clarity on this. I am sorry the church is lying to you. This symbol to the Greeks meant Son of Zeus or just Zeus. Or it meant IKHTHYES, or Vishnu. Fish, fish, everywhere. My understanding with this may be related to Jesus there god from a fish. Is what this symbol meant to say, "stay with the old way." "Jesus is from the Greek," and they, our loving church wants everything to link to the Greek as a true Jewish Orthodox Christian would want them too. The church provides zero information as to where the symbol comes from and will say it is 1st Centry that is the biggest lie yet. It is known at 4000 to 3100 BCE. The story of a god associated with ichthys the fish symbol is a Mesopotamian story completely plagiarized from another culture older than the Greeks. The story of ichthus is another story about a Greek God with a fish that in my studies is this story, "PHANES" was the primordial god (protogenos) of creation in the Orphic cosmogony. He was the generator of life--the driving force behind reproduction in the early cosmos. Phanes (also known as Jealousy and Elohim if memory serves me.) was hatched from the world-egg and is a "son of god story." The Greeks believe and have great faith that this is how their new Zeus was born. To them the egg was a giant fish egg. The new Zeus was born and is Jesus!
There is also a story like this.
THE IKHTHYES (Ichthyes) were two large Syrian river fish who rescued Aphrodite and Eros when they were fleeing the monster Typhoeus. According to some the two gods instead disguised themselves as fish to escape the monster. The fish were also credited with assisting in the birth of Aphrodite from the sea foam. In all versions of the story, they were set amongst the stars as the constellation Pisces.
The Fish were probably the same as (or reimagined as) Aphros and Bythos, the fish-tailed Ikhthyokentauroi (Ichthyocentaurs) (Sea-Centaurs) of late classical art, who are depicted bringing Aphrodite ashore after her birth.
But do not forget this.
Matsya (fish) is the fish avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu. Matsya is described to have rescued the first man, Manu, from a great deluge. Matsya may be depicted as a giant fish, often golden in color, or anthropomorphically with the torso of Vishnu connected to the rear half of a fish.
One great reason is that pagan gods can come from eggs, pretty simple also the Greeks already had the egg story with Phanes, and another one with Zues. Greeks liked their fish stuff. So, anything that any other culture had in the past that was this kind of stuff. The Greeks incorporated all that they could into their religion.
1. The Orphic Egg: In ancient Greek Orphic tradition, there exists the concept of the Orphic Egg. This cosmic egg hatched to reveal the primordial hermaphroditic deity Phanes (also known as Protogonus). Phanes, in turn, created other gods. The egg is often depicted with a serpent coiled around it, symbolizing creation and renewal.
2. Leda and the Twins: In Greek mythology, the story of Leda involves her union with the god Zeus in the form of a swan. Their consummation resulted in two eggs. From these eggs hatched:
3. Castor and Pollux (Dioscuri): Twin brothers, one immortal and the other mortal, who became the constellation Gemini3.
4. Burmese King Pyusawhti: In Burmese mythology, King Pyusawhti was hatched from a dragon’s egg and raised by peasants. His sister, also hatched from a different egg, grew up separately. This narrative combines elements of dragons, eggs, and human upbringing.
5. Mokele, the River Goddess’s Gift: In African mythology, Mokele was born from an egg that a sympathetic river goddess implanted in his mother’s belly. When the baby wouldn’t grow in the mother’s womb, the river goddess hatched it herself. The next day, she presented the baby boy to the mother but took him home again for the night.
Yes, the fish seems to be an extremely pagan symbol. I think this is why the Jewish Orthodox Greek Christian enjoys symbology so much. Extremely important in worship and in this case fertility. This symbol is clearly not what you think it is, and I think we coved the reasons why. I find the fish in every pagan culture associated to pagan gods and pagan gods only.
As far as the Greek Jesus Fish it looks like they want to cover this lie, the fish is now starting to look like this. Question "if it were not a lie, why then now change the way the Jesus fish looks?" Keep it the way it has been. According to the church that would be around 2000 years ago with Christians. Seriously early Christians. What can I say the believer thinks Moses is Christian and his or his gods 10 commandments are also Christian. Whatever believer it makes no difference to me. And now you believers need to change the fish tail? Why? Something written here from my studies true? Running from the truth? You need to change it? WHY CHRISTIAN?
Having clarity in my life it is so enjoyable driving behind the pussy car or truck. Sometimes the pussy car has this white guy's name "Jesus" inside of the actual pussy! I never knew this white guy Jesus who the Greeks knew as Zeus liked pussy so much? They put the guy who failed at saving them from sin inside a pussy! Unbelievable! I love it! The symbol and the other. But unfortunately, the ignorance of this symbol makes me wish the world was on fire right now.
These believers do not know a damn thing, yet they think they do. This is dangerous. This is offensive to me and my brother Yeshua. You think the Christian cares that we are offended by having to look at Inanna's Virginia while stuck in traffic behind you. Makes me want to vomit! I want to go up to that pussy on your car and vomit all over it, while we are stopped. Nothing would make me happier.
I was a young man when I first encountered this Christian Fish. I was attending bible study with a small group of young people. The study was put together buy one of the teens and we would have this study at his parents' house once a month. One afternoon one of our regular people came in wearing a T-shirt with this Symbol and Jesus in the Symbol. I said, "What is that?" I never seen this before. Was not popular like today. I may have seen this once before on a car and never really seen it, to understand it. She explained to me that it is about the fish that Jesus gave the crowd to eat. I looked at it for just a second and said, "That isn't a fish." She said, "What do you mean?" I said, "I do not know, I need to study this. Something is fishy (Pun intended)." It's unreal all of this believer poop. It's about anatomy! You just need to look at the anatomy Christian. Symbol "A" a naked woman on her back with legs up, freaking anatomy. Symbol "B" is a fish and guess what? Simple anatomy.
You keep going faithful believer, you'll kill everyone who is left in just a few more generations. I have no doubt of your ignorance, and how you have been and will destroy the rest of this planet and everything on it with your ignorance. You cannot even identify the difference between a Virginia and a Fish. I'm not even that stupid and I am pretty stupid people. We do not have a chance, and never have had a chance at life with nothing but ignorance in charge. Bottom line is what? Why do you have symbolism. That is the clarity here. Any symbolism is wrong and is pagan.
It is directly against truth. It is darkness. There is no CLARITY here. It is a lousy pagan symbol period. I don't care if it comes from the Greeks or Mesopotamians, it is pagan! Can't you see this? Because your church cannot. (Yes, they do know. Nothing they don't know.) The reason why they play deaf dumb and blind? They know what it is, they put it out to honor their true gods. Don't think for a second, they didn't know what it really was from the start. Just the information on Gods that came from fish should have told the real Christian this is too close to pagans. It would be reasonable then for the church to stay away from fish.
Boy, you Jewish Orthodox Greek Christians, really? Fish, Fish Everywhere.